The time has finally come...actualy its time for two things. Time for me to add another entry to this rather inactive blog and time to eat crow. I might as well do both at once.
If you'll recall I've recently been tasked with figuring out Python/Django. My first experiences with it was't bad, but nothing I really thought that I needed to write home about. (Odd though since I did write about it). As a matter of fact, I got downright frustrated with it. I thought the learning curve was too steep, felt as if they'd left some things out, etc. Even though I backed the decision to start using Django, I admittedly began to regret it.
Now, having been using Django -- almost solely -- for the past few months, I can't imagine, (get ready for it), I can't imagine using any other framework to accomplish the goals of the projects that I get myself wrapped up into. There...I said it. (Hey, crow isn't so bad if its well done I guess).
There are many things that I like about Django and there are a few things that bother me, but the good far exceed the bad and I'll try my best to outline my favorite and least favorite features for you.
First off, what I like:
The code is clean! I mean SQUEAKY CLEAN!! It feels clean when you write it, and it looks clean when you read it. At first I thought I was going to hate the whole "whitespace counts" issue and the passing of "self" to methods on my models, and all those underscores but it turns out that only bothered me for a short time. Syntax is syntax and even my favorite editor "gedit" has ways of easing that transition with snippets and the like. You really get used to it, then you really like it.
When you read someones code, there is really no question in your mind what that code is intended to do, and its very readable. (Granted, as with all code, there are some complexities that I'm not even mentioning here, and they're only complex as far as being new keywords or functions whose purpose you just haven't learned yet, etc). I tell everyone, (and I'm going to pick on my second favorite framework "Grails" here), with Grails I feel like I'm writing less code, but I end up with so much more and with Django, I feel like I'm writing more code, but end up with so much less. In actuality, they're probably pretty close. I know the Grails folks are going to be saying to me, "You don't have any code when using scaffolding..." but everyone out there knows, unless you are writing the simplest of applications, you're not going to scaffold all of your code. I'm by no means dissing Grails here, I love Grails and if ever I'm brought on to do Java again, it damn well better be Grails. I'm simply stating that Django, while it may not have the "scaffold" idea, it certainly has that functionality, its just that you don't tell it to scaffold and the code is really there, you just didn't have to write it and really feels like you wind up with less code in the end. Which is kind of a segue into my next favorite thing about Django:
The Admin Utililty:
Django has something known as the Admin application. You simply add this to your list of installed "apps" and register your models with it and Django automatically builds you a simple to use, nicely styled -- take that Rails -- administration application for your objects. Its not something that can really be explained. It has to be shown to you. You sort of wind up having that same "AH-HA" moment that you get whens someone shows your Grails for the first time. Except the Admin utility is a step above that. Its not scaffolding, its code, but again code you didn't have to write. All I can say is find someone using it, and ask them to show you what I'm talking about. You'll thank them.
The Architecture:
This took me a while to get used to. Arhictecturally, its designed like your typical MVC application, but naturally, they just had to do it a bit different. Models are still models, but your Controller is basically called a "View" and the Views are now "Templates." (This makes sense since Django has its own templating language to deal with the end user interface and the Views are responsible for handing off the data to those templates.)
As a subset of the arhcitecture, the structure of the files themselves and where they are arranged on the filesystem more closely resemble a Rails application. You have a project that contains a number of mini apps. Each app has its own models and views and those models and views are all contained within one file each: models.py and views.py. Models are your everyday run of the mill class objects but they all inherit from Django's models which is what gives them their convention over configuration powers. Views aren't objects but individual methods being called by Django. Whereas in Grails you have a Controller class with functions inside it, here you just have the functions. You may ask, how does it know what url goes to what view then which is yet another segue:
Url Pattern Matching:
Django uses regular expressions to map url requests to the individual views you have defined. As expected, this can get _very_ involved and is very powerful. There are ways to do most anything you can think of. Its very flexible and I know I've yet to tap the power hidden in this functionality. (My regex was always kinda weak...but Django is helping).
The Template Language:
I have a love/hate relationship with the templating language. Its extendable and allows you to create your own template tags fairly easily. For me it has some wierdness that I"m not used to. For instance, I can't say "if somevalue == 'othervalue'", instead I have to say "ifequal somevalue othervalue" which is a bit offputting for me. I think it was an attempt to make the templating language less "programmer centric" so that you can really have a non-programmer writing templates, though its not something I've seen very often. In my world, the programmers write it all, soup to nuts.
Forms, Formsets, Validation...etc:
Django's forms just f*cking rocks! There's no two ways about it. There's nothing like it out there. Create a form object, perhaps what they call a "ModelForm". Tie that to your object and all the validation is built right in. Done, finished, over, Django Forms FTW! Who here likes writing validation? Its mundane, boring, reptitive, etc. And what about when you have multiple forms for the same object within one form. Formsets do the trick quite nicely. Django Forms is in reality my favorite feature of all frameworks anywhere period. Don't even think of trying to do a form "your way" in Django...bite the bullet early and learn Django forms first. I tried doing things my way first and found that had I just taken the leap of faith first, everything would have been so much simpler.
Now for the small nit-picky things that I didn't like.
Getting Help:
Django has great documentation and a ton of it...the good news is, its great documentation, the bad news is, there's a ton of it. When learning something brand new, you don't know what you don't know which makes sifting through tons of documentation when you're not even sure what you're looking for kind of tough. So upon not finding what you're looking for in the docs, you think you may head over to IRC (as suggested in the docs). If the answer to your question can be found in the docs, you will be slightly chastised for asking about it. Responses will normally be just a link -- (which is fine at least there's something to read, but sometimes newibies need examples) -- or will be either preceded or followed with the words "...as documented..." thereby making you feel like a complete idiot for even asking. Not everyone in the room acts that way, but the most knowledgable ones seem to be bothered by the fact that your asking something that can be found on page 42,003 in the third paragraph that talks about something you've never even heard of until now. I understand that they are trying to teach you to fish, but who the hell wants to fish anymore after being made to feel like a complete dumb-ass? They're not putting the best foot forward in my opinion when it comes to the IRC channel. One more for instance and I'll shut up:
A particular newbie was having a problem with and received this response: "blank and null are MODEL field options, so obviously they don't work on FORM fields" -- again, I'm nit-picking here but is the "obviously" _really_ necessary when you could have just said, "...those are MODEL fields and won't work on FORM fields"?? You still get your point across, the newbie feels like they have an answer and don't feel stupid because its apparently an "obvious" thing...(beginners don't always know the obvious, or else they wouldn't be asking the questions in the first place!)
For a newbie, going into a channel on IRC -- if they even know what that is -- to seek help is a daunting thing. For many, I think it feels like they've walked into the 7th circle of hell! For a few, I'm sure they're convinced that is the case after being virtually pistol-whipped by sarcasm and adjective that suggest their intelligence is sub-par.
I've had my share of *duh* moments in the channel but if you let that extraneous commentary run off your back, then you can get some good answers and feedback from the experts that reside in #django. I'm in there daily attempting to be a bit software when I help someone, and also attempting not to ask "dumb" questions myself. There have been numerous newbies that complain about the attitude they're given when finding answers and I fear that they're right and its not giving Django a good image in my mind.
No Ajax Helpers:
In grails I got used to being able to say "form:remote..." etc. There is no such thing in Django...you want to submit something via ajax, etc...its all up to you baby. If I wanted to write my own javascript, I would..but I don't...maybe someone will add it. I got told to add it myself and submit it, but again...if I wanted to write javascript, I would...see where I'm going with this?
Do It Their Way:
Really this last one isn't a big deal. It just seems that really, in the Python world there is only one way to do things. Thats great, but that can be a serious kink if your not used to thinking a certain way. (A colleague just mentioned to me today that I'm turning into one of those "Python" guys).
Django has a steeper learning curve, especially if you are used to doing things "your own way." Now I may be off my rocker a bit here, but I've found that thus far in Django/Python there are two ways to do things -- the right way, or the wrong way. Often times when just starting out, "your way" will wind up being the wrong way. Often times, doing it the wrong way and then taking that idea into the affore mentioned IRC channel will get you slightly chastised.
Closing Remarks
In the end, I've added Django as my primary web framework. PHP is still easier to find hosting than any other language I've worked with and naturally I'll be using that for quite some time to come. Grails will continue to be my framework of choice where Java is required or where I have to interact with it. Django however I think will become my swiss army knife, if not mainly for the forms portion, for the mere fact that you can tell it was written by perfectionists. Just when you think you've found the big gotcha with something they left out, it surprises you and you think..."Man, these guys thought of everything..."
With that said, my crow is getting cold...better get back to it!
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In the dislike side:
suppose you have a base template that a child extends then several parrts of the layou bring certain javascripts/css files ... unless you choke them all in the base template there is no clean/easy way of adding them to the page output, overall, django is superb, what needs few lines of code it surely will have .. what will need more code lines, it most probably have many of them, but then again ... that template part ...
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@iongion -- I haven't run into that issue yet. I try to keep javascript to a minimum at all costs....
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